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Yagisan
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:29 am    Post subject: Yagisan's proposed builds Reply with quote

I'm looking for some feedback on the planned builds for Yagisan, Yagichan, and Yagisama, my Elementalist, Holy Champion and Infernal Behemoth respectively.

First up is Yagisan - Elementalist
Level CP Skill
1 10 Melee Combat
2 10 Hand to Hand Combat
3 0 -- Saved --
4 20 Martial Arts
5 0 -- Saved --
6 0 -- Saved --
7 30 Advanced Martial Arts
8 10 Sense Morality
9 10 Swim
10 20 Planar Protection
11 20 Boxing
12 20 Heal Self
13 20 Parry
14 10 Sense Magic
15 30 Advanced Parry
16 20 Spellcraft
17 7 Reveal
17 5 Static Discharge
17 8 Mystic Shield
18 0 -- Saved --
19 0 -- Saved --
20 30 Earth Affinity
21 60 Earth Mastery
22 30 Air Affinity
23 0 -- Saved --
24 60 Air Mastery
25 0 -- Saved --
26 60 Lesser Summoning
27 0 -- Saved --
28 0 -- Saved --
29 90 Greater Summoning
30 0 -- Saved --
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40cp banked

Second up is Yagichan - Holy Champion
Level CP Skill
1 10 Hand to Hand Combat
2 0 -- Saved --
3 20 Martial Arts
4 0 -- Saved --
5 0 -- Saved --
6 30 Advanced Martial Arts
7 10 Sense Morality
8 0 -- Saved --
9 20 Planar Protection
10 20 Boxing
11 20 Strong Attack
12 20 Meditation
13 0 -- Saved --
14 40 Divine Armor
15 0 -- Saved --
16 40 Elite Attack
17 10 Sense Magic
17 10 Swim
18 0 -- Saved --
19 0 -- Saved --
20 30 Cloak of Air
21 60 Cloak of Tornado
22 30 Cloak of Earth
23 30 Cloak of Flame
24 0 -- Saved --
25 60 Cloak of Holy Radiance
25 10 Ranged Combat
26 20 Thrown Weapons
27 30 Advanced Thrown Weapons
27 10 Melee Combat
28 20 Parry
29 30 Advanced Parry
30 0 -- Saved --
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40cp banked

And finally Yagisama - Infernal Behemoth
Level CP Skill
1 10 Hand to Hand Combat
2 0 -- Saved --
3 20 Martial Arts
4 0 -- Saved --
5 0 -- Saved --
6 30 Advanced Martial Arts
7 10 Sense Morality
8 0 -- Saved --
9 20 Planar Protection
10 20 Blood Claws
11 20 Strong Attack
12 10 Melee Combat
13 20 Parry
14 30 Advanced Parry
15 10 Sense Magic
15 10 Swim
16 0 -- Saved --
17 40 Blood Taste
18 0 -- Saved --
19 0 -- Saved --
20 30 Leathern Wings
20 30 Bloodlust
21 30 Elite Attack
22 30 Fiendish Bulk
23 0 -- Saved --
24 60 Chitinous Armor
25 30 Fire Immunity
26 0 -- Saved --
27 60 Burning Aura
28 20 Meditation
29 40 Explosive Murder
30 30 Infernal Combat
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10cp banked

So how do they look ? Anything odd ? Missing anything important ? or just something that makes you go WTF ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy Champion:
No Cloak of Steel? +6 to your soak and +6 to HTH would be pretty nice, and 75 ticks worth would be enough to sleep safely (well, as safe as you can get).

Cloak of Magma may be a better choice than Advanced Parry. Magma Spurt should now activate on gunshots piercing damage, and it does 6 Fire dmg. Magma Burst is a very fun weapon too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are some very good points. I'll have another think about the Holy Champion endgame I'll aim for.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With your IB build I reckon you'll be wanting Infernal Combat a little earlier. And IIRC Blood Taste and Advanced Parry became non-functional at some point? Ask Broomhead The Troll for advice on that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For your IB, I'd get meditation much earlier and skip sense morality and PP. And I'd skip the melee tree entirely, but that may just be me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AltoidAddict wrote:
For your IB, I'd get meditation much earlier and skip sense morality and PP. And I'd skip the melee tree entirely, but that may just be me.


The point to the melee tree is that with taste and faction bounus, you can heal 5 hp on every riposte you perform, that and the Chitinous armor plus fiendish bulk, you are unfairly hard to kill with melee or H2H
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AltoidAddict wrote:
For your IB, I'd get meditation much earlier and skip sense morality and PP.
I can't skip PP. In this breath infusions will hurt non-faction members. Toranaga basically nailed why I want Advanced Parry. Word of God is that it's presently broken due to a bug.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always recover the lost HP with Blood Taste.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teksura wrote:
You could always recover the lost HP with Blood Taste.


Or meditation. That came in very handy for my demon in Elysum last breath.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've redone both my Holy Champion and Infernal Behemoth builds taking into account the advice offered.

Yagichan - Holy Champion
Level CP Skill
1 10 Hand to Hand Combat
2 0 -- Saved --
3 0 -- Saved --
4 20 Martial Arts
5 0 -- Saved --
6 30 Advanced Martial Arts
7 10 Sense Morality
8 0 -- Saved --
9 20 Planar Protection
10 20 Boxing
11 20 Strong Attack
12 20 Meditation
13 0 -- Saved --
14 40 Divine Armor
15 10 Sense Magic
15 10 Swim
16 0 -- Saved --
17 40 Elite Attack
18 0 -- Saved --
19 0 -- Saved --
20 30 Cloak of Air
21 60 Cloak of Tornado
22 30 Cloak of Earth
23 0 -- Saved --
24 60 Cloak of Steel
25 30 Cloak of Flame
25 10 Ranged Combat
26 0 -- Saved --
27 60 Cloak of Magma
28 20 Thrown Weapons
29 30 Advanced Thrown Weapons
30 0 -- Saved --
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40cp banked

This has been redone to take a Cloak of Steel, due to my already heavy h2h tree expenditure - and picks up Cloak of Magma for some ranged fun (which as was pointed out, has a handy dandy aura that should do more damage than riposting would).

Yagisama - Infernal Behemoth
Level CP Skill
1 10 Hand to Hand Combat
2 0 -- Saved --
3 20 Martial Arts
4 0 -- Saved --
5 0 -- Saved --
6 30 Advanced Martial Arts
7 10 Sense Morality
8 0 -- Saved --
9 20 Planar Protection
10 20 Blood Claws
11 20 Strong Attack
12 20 Meditation
13 10 Sense Magic
13 10 Swim
14 0 -- Saved --
15 40 Blood Taste
16 10 Melee Combat
17 20 Parry
18 30 Advanced Parry
19 0 -- Saved --
20 30 Leathern Wings
21 30 Bloodlust
22 30 Elite Attack
23 30 Infernal Combat
24 30 Fiendish Bulk
25 0 -- Saved --
26 60 Chitinous Armor
27 30 Fire Immunity
28 0 -- Saved --
29 60 Burning Aura
30 40 Explosive Murder
----------------------------
10cp banked

This was redone to pick up Meditation in early T2 for poisons, and for healing when I can't find a target for Blood Taste, and Infernal Combat was brought forward for increased accuracy.

Presumably the elementalist build looks fine, as no one has commented on it yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only thing I would question with the elementalist build is getting swim early or at all. Unless you specifically plan on spending a lot of time in the water plane then it can be ignored if you ask me.
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